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Message: Entry: Hitchens' Hubris Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/hitchens_hubris#2711 Post contents: Tom -- Thanks for your reply, but you haven't addressed the point. Hitchens and Dawkins are theophobic bigots, but your argument about Kolbe is wrong. See John 15:13. If Kolbe cannot be described as selfless, the word has no meaning. The word means acting without thought of self. Here is the quote: "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." The Church teaches that God rewards those who display that greater love. Kolbe died believing he was pleasing God and that pleasing God is the key to Heaven. IOW, he believed that he would exchange intense but brief suffering on earth for eternal bliss. That is not selfless. Obeying God and acting so as to gain eternal bliss or escape eternal torment is not selfless, but it is the central message of Christianity. Sent at: 2008 07 09