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Message: Entry: Egalitarian, Totalitarian, Socratic? Link: http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/egalitarian_totalitarian_socratic#27464 Post contents: "My ancestors came from Scottish clans up to the 18thC who were into extreme violence, grudge killings, incest, rape and probably worse things. In Appalachia, one can find that ethos still. " I'm curious as to what your definition of incest might be. Would, say, 3rd cousins be incestuous? There's an intriguing Ludovici article related to this: Eugenics and consanguineous marriages: Ludovici writes: "As a formula for the respective effects of inbreeding and out- or cross-breeding, I suggest the following: Inbreeding canalizes and isolates health and desirable qualities, just as it canalizes and isolates ill-health and undesirable qualities. Cross-breeding conceals and spreads ill-health and undesirable qualities, and thus contaminates desirable stocks. But it also tends to improve poor or degenerate stocks at the expense of sound stock. The chief effects of miscegenation on the constitution are: firstly, degeneracy, by the reversion that is induced; secondly, dysfunction and disease owing to the production of individuals whose bodies are discordant jumbles of parts from various unlike stocks; and thirdly, increasing morbidity, owing to the fact that there is no canalization of disease, none of health, and deleterious hereditary factors are spread even among sound stocks." Also see: Couples Who Are Third or Fourth Cousins Have More Kids, Grandkids Than Other Couples. --- I suspect this attack on "incest" is just a way to encourage the Appalachians you mention to mix with outsiders, thus destroying the Appalachian ethnic group. Sent at: 2009 01 09