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Message: Entry: Post-Christian America Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/post_christian_america#27606 Post contents: Charles, All paleos should agree that there was too much Enlightenment language, references, sources, idiom, etc. in much of the writings of the Founders including the DoI and to some degree by absence in the Constitution. (The lack of a reference to God.) But the DoI among other things were theory, and they went against the "facts on the ground." America was a completely unegalitarian and highly Christian society. (Although not Catholic as you would like.) You are giving aid and comfort to the liberal enemy when you accept their notion that America was founded "on" a proposition. The notion is just silly, and the people who were doing the founding didn't, by and large (there are exceptions), believe that is what they were doing. America was founded “by” a particular people, in a particular place, at a particular time. America is a particular nation like all others. (The term Founding is even inaccurate and misleading, but I use it because of convention.) Both of us as illiberal Christians oppose many of the liberal ideas that were at least part of an admittedly flawed founding. But let’s be honest. I highly suspect it is a certain part of the American particularity, the Protestantism, that you have the most issue with. I doubt you would be happy with an illiberal Protestant America. So it is the Protestant/Catholic axis, not the liberal/illiberal axis that concerns you most. Correct me if I’m wrong. Sent at: 2008 11 20