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Entry: Willing Executioners?--The Holocaust, Germans, and Collective Guilt Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/willing_executioners_the_holocaust_germans_and_collective_guilt#28679 Post contents: All guilt is personal and to hold all Germans responsible for what happened as a group is wrong. I don't blame all Jews for the crimes in Russia or the new crimes in Palistine and Iraq. Most of these things are way beyond the ordinary man. Even those ordered to take part, had no real way to escape orders. It took a lot of courage for someone to stand up on the battle field and refuse to obey a superior officer. Some did, but it took a lot of courage. Look at this country, we stood by and let the Surpreme Court, by decree, declare that the life of a baby in the womb was worthless and that the people in a democracy, with full freedom had no right to regulate, the practice of abortion. Now they are doing the same thing with homosexual marriage. Hitler had to hide his crimes. Here abortion, torture, Abu Graib, Guantanomo,and preememtive war are allowed and celebrated even with full knowldege of the population with free speech and free press. The Germans were in a police state. The diaries of Otto Klemperor, who Dr. Gottfried refers to, can be read with great effect to see the attitude the average German had toward the Jews. Klemperor was helped at all turns by old friends and even new ones as he survivied for 6 years in Germany during the war. They are very informative about the life of ordinary Germans in this period. Sent at: 2008 12 02