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Message: Entry: Liberalism Forbids An Awakening Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/liberal_judgment_and_the_liberal_scale_of_values#28992 Post contents: "Much of Africa was once under white-rule. By the mid-twentieth century this meant prosperity, efficient government, European-style capital cities, the rule of law, and rising standards of living for white and black alike. Since the overthrow of white rule in places like Rhodesia and South Africa, the continent has declined on nearly every measure of human flourishing" Mr. Roach, I do not care if "white rule" meant that farts smelled like roses, fact is that it is immoral for a foreign nation to rule another by force. You spend a whole article talking about how bad liberalism's attitude is yet you ignore the giant elephant in the room. It's like a man complaining about people running red lights as he himself is driving to a swamp so he can dump the bodies of the family he just murdered. And how do we know that, without the colonizer nations, that Africa would not have done as well as it had? Maybe without European powers Africa would have not only done better, but even kept those standards for today? The fact that you can in one small article damn our current neoconservative imperial project in Iraq and then equally defend the older imperial projects in Africa is so amazing I swear this article must either be making a humorous point or you are simply admitting that you oppose our current foreign policies only because you are not the one getting rich from our destruction in Iraq. Sent at: 2009 01 08