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Message: Entry: Liberalism Forbids An Awakening Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/liberal_judgment_and_the_liberal_scale_of_values#29004 Post contents: An excellent article Mr. Roach. You have demonstrated the problems with the liberal mind. The future is always far better than the present but it never occurs to them that soon the current present will be that backward past. Amazingly some liberals have already come up with such conservative ideas as community and shared goals but they will never admit that these ideas actually come from the past. I don't think that you are per se advocating colonialism here but rather advocating against the violent or rapid overthrow of governments for equality. When equality comes about naturally as a gradual process then it is feasible and without suffering. Pre-civil war there were over 400,000 free blacks in the south. Are you going to tell me we would still have slavery today without the civil war? I believe the European countries were able to do away with slavery without sacrificing 500,000 lives and putting their countries through a violent reconstruction. What Africa is experiencing is the results of changing the hands of government in too short a time. It is not that blacks are incapable of ruling themselves it is simply that they were instantly thrust into roles that had long been carried out by whites. To say that the suffering and starvation are all for the good is cruel beyond belief. There are many blacks in Africa who wish for the days when they were under white rule. The irony is that it is white owned corporations that have most profited on the removal of the white governments as they have found it easier to gut the countries with the help of unstable governments, most notably in South Africa. Sent at: 2009 01 08