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Message: Entry: Who Speaks for Europe? (on the PC defenders of the West) Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/who_speaks_for_europe_on_the_pc_defenders_of_western_civilization#29185 Post contents: Why are so many Christian conservatives so blind to what their own beliefs have done to gays over the years? I am currently living in a house in D.C. with several other young, gay professionals and students. Among us is a 19 year old ex-Mormon whose family has put him out on the street merely because he is gay. My own conservative Catholic family did the same thing to me when I was 16. Are these experiences not supposed to affect us? Are we wrong to want other young men and women to be spared the pain and rejection to which we have been subjected? As for the decline of Europe and the West, how is this our fault, exactly? We aren't responsible for the low birthrate. How could we be - we're only five percent, at most, of the population. Europe has a low birthrate because European heterosexuals decided to stop having children. Nor did we gays open the floodgates to Muslims. Heterosexual European politicians did that. As for Europe's loss of faith, atheism long precedes the modern gay rights movement, and the most infamously atheistic empire in Europe (USSR) was, and still is, a hellhole for gays. I love the West. I am as upset by the trends that I see as anyone else on here. But I am fed up with conservative Christians scapegoating gays for these trends. Our movement aimed at allowing us to live with the dignity you all take for granted is not to blame for the rock-bottom birthrates, the erosion of Christian faith, and the massive non-Western immigration affecting our countries. Nor is treating gays like second-class citizens a prerequisite for a viable civilization. Sent at: 2008 11 20