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Message: Entry: The Past Is Another Country--Counter-factual History and the Buchanan Controversy Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/the_past_is_another_country_counterfactual_history_and_the_buchanan_controv#30041 Post contents: RonL, If the Jewish nationalist movement would close its diaspora political satellites that lobby and agitate for unconditional Western support and aid, and instead rely on contributions and support from diaspora Jewish nationalists such as yourself, we each would have nothing left to argue about on this issue. Until it does America-firsters and Israel firsters can never find common ground, or common cause. We both know there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian civilization; there is Western (Christians) civilization, and there is Judaic civilization. They might be able to ally on certain issues, but where the rubber meets the road, I'm going to put Western civilization first, and you’re going to put Judaic civilization first -- which perhaps is as it should be. But you seem to want your cake, and to eat it too; that is, serve two Gods -- Western civilization and Judaic civilization. We both know that this is untenable. Sent at: 2008 12 01