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Entry: The Past Is Another Country--Counter-factual History and the Buchanan Controversy Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/the_past_is_another_country_counterfactual_history_and_the_buchanan_controv#30116 Post contents: Quote from RonL: "Under Israeli rule, the Arabs of the disputed territories more than doubled in population." "Disputed Territories?" There was no dispute before the Nabka as to who was living there. Quote: "There is no Jewish plot to wipe out Muslims." So the Transfer Committee did not exist? The imperial design of political Zionism is a fact and it cannot be denied. RonL I'm about to bury you with starting with Jabotinsky. From the Iron Wall: "There can be no discussion of voluntary reconciliation between us and the Arabs, not now, and not in the foreseeable future. All well-meaning people, with the exception of those blind from birth, understood long ago the complete impossibility of arriving at a voluntary agreement with the Arabs of Palestine for the transformation of Palestine from an Arab country to a country with a Jewish majority. Each of you has some general understanding of the history of colonization... It matters not what kind of words we use to explain our colonization. Colonization has its own integral and inescapable meaning understood by every Jew and by every Arab. Colonization has only one goal. This is in the nature of things. To change that nature is impossible. It has been necessary to carry on colonization against the will of the Palestinian Arabs and the same condition exists now. " Rabbi Fischmann testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry on July 9, 1947: "The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates. It includes parts of Syria and Lebanon." Question: Which country which often engages in illegal wars, invasions, occupations, and bombing of Lebanon and Syria? Now you know why. From Theodor Herzl (Complete Diaries, Vol.II, Page 711) in describing what is Israel: "“From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates”. From Oded Yinon, an official in the Israeli foreign ministry, the article was entitled, “A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s.” “Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shiite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization.” So RonL has you read “A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s.”? What do you think about the Lavon Affair? What you thinking about the Israel program for the treatment of Palestinian Prisoners? Do you support the torture of Christian Palastinians under this program? I can go on and on but it boils down to my do you want me Mr.RonL to help pay for this? Which country country do you love? America or Israel? Sir, please give us evidence that Muslims are in an international "Eurabia Plot" to conquer the West? Can't you cite their documents? Who heads this plot. Who funds it? It you want to play "conspiracy theory" and international intrigue I'm afraid you're a rank amatuer. Cause unlike you I have Ray McGovern,William Christison, Scot Ridder, Philip Giraldi, Karen Kwiatkowski, Robert David Steele, David MacMichael, Michael Springmann, Gen. Albert Stubblebine, and many many more folks who will tell that this "Eurabia Plot" of "former" British Intelligence agent Benard Lewis is a propaganda campaigne by the very folks creating the Neo-liberal policies that you don't like. If it empowers the State at the expense of the native population then it a lie and anticonservative. Does our Israel Policy empower the State at the expense of American People? Sent at: 2008 12 01