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Message: Entry: Patrick Buchanan and the Necessary Book Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/patrick_buchanan_and_the_necessary_book#30328 Post contents: << There’s nothing “dishonest” about keeping the truth from those with no right to it. >> That is right, but you confuse two unrelated questions. This is a question of forging documents in order to deceive others. Nothing could justify this, according to traditional Catholic morality. Of course, according to another standard, it may be justified, but that's irrelevant to my point. << Or were all those Poles who lied to the Nazis so they could harbor Jewish children violating one of the Commandments? >> If they employed what is known as "mental reservation" for a proportionate reason, they did not lie and they did not therefore sin. But if one lies, even for a "good" cause, then that is sinful. I would have thought you'd know this. << What is more, if Stepinac WAS doing this, it was with papal permission--as Sr. Marchione documents in her biographies of Pius XII. >> I don't accept that this is factual. << Papal order transcends canon law, just as charity overrides justice. >> Charity does not "over-ride" justice. Any "charity" which was not in accord with justice would not be charity. Of course, one may _not demand_ justice, and in that sense charity may go beyond justice. But one may not comm it an injustice in favour of "charity." << The Church bent over backwards, throughout most of Europe, to save people from Hitler’s murder machine. The story deserves to be more widely known. >> Of course the Church "bent over backwards" as she also did in the Middle Ages to assist the Jews. Countless papal bulls exist which erect protections for the Jews. But what she did not do is to permit fraud, forgery, and dishonesty to assist the Jews. The allegation is a calumny. Sent at: 2008 12 01