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Message: Entry: Loss of Independence Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/loss_of_independence#31714 Post contents: To add to my earlier assertions: 1) Jackson's threats to the secessionists should be seen in light of the fact that he vocally supported some of their economic grievances and their calls for tariff reform. Clay was not happy with this but didn't want to see his enemy riding on a white horse, even though he agreed with him about secession. Jackson played his enemies off against one another in that situation while giving them what they wanted where he agreed. That is not at all like Lincoln's bloody approach. 2) The War of 1812 itself was a more crippling blow to the antebellum republic than anything Jackson ever did. But as for Hamilton, it is too ideological to blame his ideas for globalism when, as Buchanan states, it was America's deviation from them that really set in the age of globalism. Hamiltonianism, whether one likes it or not, is a variation on the old Westphalian world order. For different reasons, some paleocons and neocons, and all paleolibertarians (for them it really is almost a religious doctrinre) suppose too much continuity from Hamiltonianism to today's system. This fails to take into account the World Wars and Burnham's Managerial Revolution. Sent at: 2008 12 05