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Message: Entry: The Folk Mass is Ended... Go in Peace Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_folk_mass_is_ended_go_in_peace#31892 Post contents: OK, thanks for the correction, Mr. Z. Do you think Vatican Two was written largely in 1960s Newspeak or was that jocularly hyperbolic? For the record, my heart soared when Pope Benedict was elected and the reality he was elected put the lie to the claim, on the part of far too many self-anointed traditionalists, that one could not be in Communion with the Church and remain a traditionalist. I am the same age as Israel and I was learnt the Faith during the time when what some folks now are calling the Gregorian Rite was normative and the Pastor, Msgr. Nolan, at Saint Mary's Church, in Springfield, Vermont, would say the 6:45 am Mass in less than 30 minutes - that time too was normative back in the day. Mr. Z. You are a very very bright man. However, like many others who differentiate themselves from all other Catholics by adopting a qualifying adjective, you make the mistake of engaging in ideation whose subtext is that it was the Church itself, and not the errors of the age, which was responsible for such a sudden collapse of Faith. And in constructing mental images upon that subtext, one is just illustrating they are tinged, if not suffused, with the very same liberalism they identify and condemn in others. IOW, it is the soi disant traditionalist who thinks of himself as being immune to the errors of the day while he judges it is the Church which has been infected with the errors of liberalism. And that is Protestantism in Fiddlebacks, brother. Sent at: 2008 11 20