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Entry: To Hell with Joe Klein! Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/to_hell_with_joe_klein#32721 Post contents: Israel is NOT on the side of Western civilization in any clash of civilizations; it is on its OWN side, which is Judaic civilization. What is Judaic civilization? Something very different than Old Testament Judaism of Judeo-Christianity, which is really the only claim that contemporary Judaics have to any kind of continuity with Western civilization. Since the Talmud, which I regard as a quasi-fascist doctrine, organized Judaism has followed course and rejected the cosmic rough justice milieu of the Old Testament and morphed into a much more clannish, supremacist and even racist religo-ideology than pre-Christian Judaism, so much so that it is now a completely different entity. Not coincidentally, Talmudic Judaism has produced Jewish Bolshevism, Zionism, and Neoconservatism, none of which can be regarded as paradigms of Western civilization despite the desperate spinning of Zionists. In fact, all are not only alien, but hostile to Western civilization. I am familiar with Gottfried’s work, and there is no way in hell he would be a supporter of Israel and its Zionist lobby in the US if he weren’t Jewish. Why, just look at what it has wrought: entangling alliances, the centralization of power and big government in Washington, massive spending on Israel and Zionist related wars, Neocon authoritarianism that is mindful of Soviet Russia, the suppression of free speech and dissent, essentially a One Party State on the question of Zionism in particular, but increasingly on many other issues in general as well, an anti-Constitutional, elitist approach to governing primarily on behalf of a wealthy Zionist oligarchy…these are all initiatives that Gottfried otherwise adamantly opposes -- that is, when he’s not defending Israel. A handful of US Jewish Zionists like Gottfried are torn between their principles and their Judaic loyalties, but the vast majority of Zionists have no such qualms about their Israel-first loyalties. And really, in the end, you can’t serve two masters. In the West vs. the rest formulation, Israel is with “the rest.” Authentic conservatives, libertarians and Constitutionalists recognize that. Sent at: 2008 12 02