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Message: Entry: Authority Issues -- Is There Sovereignty Beyond the State? Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/authority_issues_is_there_sovereignty_beyond_the_state#32762 Post contents: "We need government to uphold the norms of morality, I am told by people who specialize in the unintentionally funny. If the moral condition of society has reached a level at which we would look for relief to the kind of men who can succeed in a political system like ours, then the patient is terminal." Complaints like this always strikes me as opportunistic. In the U.S. it was the centralized state that struck down laws enforcing moral norms, often in raw acts of judicial power. In opposing local morals legislation, Libertarians simply uphold the expansive statist status quo. It's also not the quality of the men running the system that especially matters, but rather the quality of the laws they can be convinced to produce. As bad men can produce good art or good science, so too can they produce good law. Sent at: 2008 12 02