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Message: Entry: Authority Issues -- Is There Sovereignty Beyond the State? Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/authority_issues_is_there_sovereignty_beyond_the_state#32924 Post contents: Septeus7 you wrote “No, No, NO. An Empire is not various states under an emperor. An Empire is a ONE nation attempting to rule over other nations. This is wrong because God establishes the nations and each nation is to judged by itself for its works and such the independance of the nations are God-given and the attempt of one nation by its State to rule over another nation defiles this natural order corrupts all the nations.” Septeus7 how is it that Empire is wrong? The second person of the Blessed Trinity humbly submitted Himself to the Authority of Caesar. And the Prophet King David told the world that this Pagan Roman Empire would one day bring peace and justice throughout the whole world, making it possible that Word made Flesh would dwell amongst us. “In his days shall justice spring up, and abundance of peace, till the moon be taken sway.” Empire is needed to settle disputes among rivals. This is nothing new. Aristotle said as much in his politics and history confirms the necessity of a Supreme ruler over all. Men can not escape this need of one Supreme mediator. Look at the current world need for such a office, with the annihilation of the Office of the Holy Roman Emperor, modern men had to fill this vacuum, and this was done with the creation of the league of nations and finally with the United Nations. No, No, NO Empire is not wrong. It is the miss-use or abuse of the Office that is wrong. Sent at: 2008 12 02