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Message: Entry: Freedom from shame? Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/freedom_from_shame#33048 Post contents: I agree with Danby and disagree with Irenaeus. A fifteen-year-old pregnant girl who is forced into a marriage without the option of divorce becomes an example of putting community survival ahead of individual rights. In earlier times, women had sufficient strength of character and will to endure marriage without psychotherapeutic indoctrination, humanist angst, and the rest of modernity's idiocies. Sent at: 2008 12 02