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Message: Entry: Authority Issues -- Is There Sovereignty Beyond the State? Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/authority_issues_is_there_sovereignty_beyond_the_state#33130 Post contents: Simon Tregarth apparently you do not know from whom you quote: “Render to Caesar what is Caesar, and to God what is God’s” Is a quote from The Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. Jesus Christ and all of His disciples were faithful citizens of the Roman Empire. Jesus Christ is someone libertarians know nothing about. Libertarians refuse to bend their neck to the One True Faith or the Divine Governmental authority given to men by the Blessed Trinity to best govern themselves. Instead libertarians along with the rest of modern society would rather be govern under their own godless terms, thus creating modern democratic institutions such as the United Nations to usurp the Divine Authority of the Holy Roman Emperor. So the system you libertarians hate, the modern state, is nothing but a man made creation. A creation that none of you libertarians know how to tame, or shape into your own godless liking. Good luck with your libertarian “solutions” in keeping in check the modern man made monster. So tell me if “There is a solution!” to your misery, what is it? Roll back? Yeah good luck with that, I am sure the United Nations would be happy to have you libertarian pest out of the way. Sent at: 2008 12 02