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Message: Entry: Decoding the Iowa Poll Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/decoding_the_iowa_poll#3376 Post contents: A statement that Ron Paul made shows more ideological bent than serious reflexion. I refer to the one about denying services to illegal inmigrants. It is easy to say "deny them hospitals and clinics". Until you realize that a) the diseases they are likely to have will be contagious ones and b) a lot of them work in food preparation. You cannot allow contagious diseases to go untreated or even unrecognized (that is, under the radar for the CDC), unless you want an epidemic further along the road. (The debate we have about socialized medicine, or if it is right to make you pay for your neighbors medical care can only happen in a society where most disease is not communicable. There are two words that will make the most die-hard Libertarian drop his or her objections automatically "Ebola fever"). Same with housing. We are talking with people who without access to housing will revert to building shacks with no plumbing and using the street as a sewer. We have to remember that making sure that each housing unit has a working toilet connected to the sewage treatment system is not a nice thing we do for them, but a nice thing they do for us. My solution would be to have the employers pay, as fine, the cost of the social services their employees used, since they employ them in order to save money on wages, but those low wages ensure that their employees, whether legal or illegal end up using social services provided by the rest of us. Sent at: 2008 12 01