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Message: Entry: "Childish Unreason", Then and Now Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/childish_unreason_then_and_now#4013 Post contents: PS, A few more observations - again, with great respect for Mr Foy, with whom I largely agree on many things, including the fact that the British government was (partly) responsible for WW I - but we disagree on Mr Foy's attribution to Britain of principal guilt for that war. With all due respect, Mr Foy, your Irish (and American) is getting the better of you when you try a bit TOO hard to excuse Germany. (Gloss: I will agree with Mr Foy and most others here, that President Wilson was the main criminal of WW I and its aftermath, and that America never should have gotten into that war.) HOWever, Mr Foy. Acknowledging Britain's role in starting that stupid war, is one thing. But vindicating Germany while positing Britain as the origin of all of the main international troubles of the 20th/21st century, is going too far. A few notes and thoughts and links: 1. Mr Foy, you mentioned the Zionists and Communists as the only two beneficiaries of WWI (well, aside from American industrialists, who I will agree also profited from it in nefarious ways.) But you neglected to mention the Irish Nationalists. They, too, the bloody barbarian Fenian terrorist bastards, also benefited from the Great War. Irish independence in 1922, was a proximate consequence of the Great War. 1.a, And it was a paradoxical blessing for Britain to be rid of most of Ireland. Good riddance. I have never met a single Briton who wishes that the Republic of Ireland had never become independent of the UK. Good riddance, is what they say. And many, or perhaps most, Britons today (well, the real ones, not the recent immigrants from Pakistan etc, I mean the REAL Britons) - most of them would be very happy to see Northern Ireland just, just going away. And generally speaking, there is no great love between the Northern Irish Protestants and the British of England and Wales and Scotland. HOWever: 1.c, HOWever, I DID have an elderly British friend - some years ago - who was a Countess, whose title was inherited from a (now extinct) "county" in Ireland; she was the hereditary British "Countess" of that Irish county (which is now in the independent Irish Republic.) She was one of the greatest Ladies I have ever known; she demonstrated to me, how and why hereditary aristocracy is usually better than the rule of populist nouveau-riche parvenues. Well, sometimes I would lunch with her at her occasional apartment in London, and in it, she hung some portraits of her husband's ancestors, who ruled that county of Ireland for a few hundred years. And...and...one of those oil-painted portraits, had some chars, some burn-marks on it, from a fire from circa 1920... ...because, some Irish-Nationalist terrorists burned down their mansion in Ireland, circa 1920. Ah, BUT, those Fenian bastards attacked the wrong people. Because my friend's ancestor (or rather, the ancestor of her husband), fought tooth and nail in Parliament, to TRY to bring some assistance to the Irish during the Great Famine in the 1840s! And what did that TRULY noble, TRULY aristocratic Lady, say to me, about the burn-marks on her ancestral portraits? She said, with a smile: "John, these were damaged in a fire set by the IRA and De Valere's men. They burned down our mansion. But we can't blame them too much; they had a point; they had a lot to be angry about. But I just wish they would have known what our family did for Ireland when we were there. We tried to help them. But the people who burned our mansion, those poor people, they didn't know that. So I'm not angry at them about the burn-marks on our family portraits; they just didn't know any better." Nobler words have never been said. 2. Mr Foy, I still want to take you to task for quoting from a friend of the PUBLIC Satanist, practitioner of witchcraft and of "sex-magic", Aleister Crowley, as part of your title for this blog post. Good God, man! Can't you find any better accuser of Britain than THAT? Francis Harris, the bosom-buddy (and probably an occasional homosexual partner) of the OPEN, PUBLIC Satanist and practitioner of "sex-magic", bloody Aleister Crowley? Sometimes, so-called "ad hominem" arguments ARE valid! Because, how can we separate a man's arguments from his personal character? (We cannot; in this sense, many "ad hominem" arguments ARE valid, unless we believe in the Modern Age superstition of "scientific objectivity") This is debatable. But what is NOT debatable, Mr Foy, is that your hero, Francis Harris, was the friend and room-mate and bosom-buddy of the bloody OPEN, PUBLIC Satanist practitioner of witchcraft, Aleister Crowley. (Who was, among other things, a vicious racist and antisemite, and I don't use those terms lightly. Crowley was an OPEN racist and antisemite, and practitioner of witchcraft and advocate of sexual and moral licentiousness.) 3. Mr Foy, with all due respect to you (and I do respect you very highly), if the best "Devil's Advocate" you can find to vindicate Germany and condemn Britain vis a vis WW I, is a bosom-buddy and probable homosexual lover of the Satan-worshipper Aleister Crowley, then I will say, you have proved - if anything - that Germany was more on the side of Satan than Britain was, in 1914. 4. Now just a personal gloss: Whenever I hear Irish-Americans of TODAY making apologies for Germany in WW I and WW II, I smell stale cheap lager and I imagine an aggrieved and disappointed Irish-American swimming in many pints of cheap beer in a so-called "Irish" tavern in Philadelphia (my hometown), as he yearns desperately for some kind of "glory" in his life, which he has no imagination to create unless he speaks/writes like a parasite upon old Irish grievances against "The English". Mr Foy, with all due (and sincere) respect to you and your great mind - which, God knows, we need, we need you, Mr Foy, and I consider you as my friend and political ally - still, Mr Foy, one friend to another, let me tell you that I think your mind remains a bit distorted by inherited memories from Ireland, when your (and some of my) ancestors BELIEVED they were shamed by "the English." Please. Mr Foy, my friend and ally, please, get over it, for all of our sakes. Ireland-versus-England (AND Germany-versus-England) is, or ought to be, a dead issue, a moot point now that all of Western Christendom is struggling for survival. Sincerely yours, John Donald Ball III, Grandson of a British Catholic, John D Ball Sr (1899-1962, who had a Protestant mother) who married my Irish Grandmother, Genevieve Reilly, whose ancestors in Galway experienced the Great Famine of Ireland. As the American cartoon-character Pogo said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us!" Mr Foy, please lay down your arms against "the English", and now take up arms WITH the sons and daughters of English Christendom - because now, we all are fighting together against REAL enemies. A salute and a glass of FINE Australian wine from me to you, Mr Foy! Sent at: 2008 09 06