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Entry: Englishmen, and Other Aborigines Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/englishmen_and_other_aborigines#431 Post contents: My counter-rebttual to H.A: 1. Yes the Pilgrims were not wanted in England, BECAUSE they were fanatics. I'll ignore your straw-man argument about whether England was merry. 2. Going underground or keeping a low profile is not the same thing as obliteration. 3. Many small Protestant sects died a natural death from obscurity and desuetude. Good thing, too. Although, one of the most charitable Protestant sects, the Quakers, survived and prospered and gave rise to the most religiously tolerant colony in all English history, with the King's blessing and in fraternal accord with C of E settlers who joined them in Philadelphia. 4. Cromwell was a military dictator and arguably a mass murderer, not a terrorist. Cromwell seized control of Parliament, which is entirely opposite to the terrorist act of blowing it up. 5. No I'm not kidding that Queen Elizabeth's reign was a relief even for England's Catholics, after the years of domestic insecurity and instability which preceded it. And her remote heir, Charles II, whose reign was a reestablishment of the culture of domestic peace and relative tolerance which Elizabeth established, would not think I was kidding, and neither would the considerable number of either covert or open Catholics in his court, of whom he was one when he formally converted on his deathbed. Sent at: 2008 12 02