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Entry: Sept. 11, 2001: Adrift Among the Dead Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/sept_11_2001_adrift_among_the_dead#4927 Post contents: The CSA recognized the right of its constituent states to secede, but stayed together until its collective defeat. The misnamed Holy Roman Empire and the contemporary European Union are also both examples of the sort of thing I have in mind, as were the United States under the Articles of Confederation. We need to get away from the modern Westphalian way of thinking that a state has either complete sovereignty or none at all. Even modern states sometimes make treaties to restrict or abolish tariffs, passport requirements, or for law enforcement cooperation. Sent at: 2008 08 29