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Message: Entry: Who's Infallible Here, Anyway? The Human Life Review Chooses Party Over Church Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/wars_and_rumors_of_war#5508 Post contents: @Sid, indeed, you are right. I cannot judge the Church by the actions of Caggiano and Mienvielle, nor any other nasty people who got ordained. But... but there is a price to be paid for tolerating corruption within your body, and unless the price is paid reform did not come. It took Martin Luther for the Church to finally do something about what was wrong and try to fix it. (and some of the things they did to fix it may have made thing worse). So, I am doing my bit by refusing membership in a Church that will not clean its act, and telling people why. (This reminds me of the priest who tries to convert a Jew to Christiantiy, and the Jew says that he is going to Rome to see for himself, leaving the priest very troubled because he knows what is going on in Rome. When the Jew comes he narrates all the corruption he saw. "So you won't convert now" the priest says ."No, if the Church, in spite of all that has been going on is] still thriving, then there must be truth to it, so I will convert") But I do not like to condone bad behavior, and if by putting a bit of pressure I can help it to reform, then so be it. As for Dr. Cathey, the less said, the better. He is dead to me. Sent at: 2008 11 22