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Entry: Greenspan's Gambits Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/greenspans_gambits#5546 Post contents: The welfare state is the debt paid by the State which was incurred by the massive confiscation of Church property. You are right, for a long time there was no welfare state, and all charity was done through the Church, which had a large amount of property to manage it. Then the temporal princes confiscated Church property, with the Reform (in Germany and England), leaving charity unfunded, and without a central system of delivery. This would happen in France during the Revolution. The princes and the REvolutionaries distributed the Church property to their friends and followers, and let those served by the charities manage as best they could (or hanging them as the English did to those who begged too often to their taste). So, when the State takes over Welfare, it is merely paying off that old debt. If you want to turn back the responsibility to Christian Charity, then ask too tht the state should return to the Church the means to do so. That is, return to it the stolen property. Sent at: 2008 11 22