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Message: Entry: More about Islamofascism Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/more_about_islamofascism#5881 Post contents: Sam only knows old tricks: -- reference or quote out of context, -- no way the reader can see the context, -- asserted association ("Mr. Joseph Welch, do you know that Fred Fisher was a member of the Communist Party" "I have a list of 50 SPLLC members in the Paleocon movement!") -- distortion of another's argument, or omission -- guilt by association or very tangential analogy, -- denial what what one earlier clearly said, putting words in another's mouth, -- playing the prophet, -- Robert Welch Red-baiting and Red Scare tactics, -- ad hominem, -- red herring, -- non sequitur, -- no evidence, no argument, -- the false dilemma fallacy ("if you're not my racialist-nationalist-fascist] position then your a Communist"), -- and just plain lies (e.g. that I operate out of the position of the SPLC). We've see it all. Red Phillip's right. We're wasting our time with Sam. Let' just say Joseph Welch said, and then drop it. Jack, regarding the organizations you have listed, there might be some truth in what you say. I just need evidence of their Anti-Christian views. That our culture, at least the media and the universities, are anti-Christian I have no doubt. As for Zionism, my view is that this just isn't a USA interest; let's get out of that part of the world, and leave it at that. Sent at: 2008 07 24