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Entry: William Hawkins, Loser Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/william_hawkins_loser#5954 Post contents: I think that Hawkins objection that immediate pullout is not politically feasible misses the mark. Of course it is not politically feasible at present. We can't get the gonadless "anti-war" Democrats to step up. How are we going to get enough Democrats and Republicans to agree? But if debate was limited to what is presently politically feasible, then the JRC and paleos in general might as well pack it up and go home. Very little that we support is "politically feasible" at present. My impression was that this debate was about which side had the better moral and philosophical argument. Not who had the better wonkish political plan. Otherwise you could just play the "not politically feasible" trump card to shot down any idealistic proposal. Justin made the best point and made it over and over again. The longer we are there trying to fix what we broke, or stabilize the region, or whatever, the more likely we are to end up in a disastrous conflict with Iran. Serge even conceded the likelihood of a conflict with Iran is 6.5/10. I am not convinced that the longer we stay there it helps even marginally. The sides are going to fight when we leave whether we leave tomorrow or in 2 years. We are not fixing what we broke. We are simply moving the pile of ruble from one place to another. They will fight when we leave regardless because anything we help establish over there will have no legitimacy in their eyes. Sent at: 2008 07 06