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Entry: Mama was a Spartan Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/mama_was_a_spartan#596 Post contents: Sparta might have made it possible, but Athens finished the job at the naval battle of Salamis. We shouldn't play at empathising TOO much with the Spartans, whose habits were very alien even from the most disciplined European warriors of the past 2,000 years or more. But on the other hand, it's just ridiculous and totally ahistorical for an intellectual wanker like Kagan to call the Spartans "fascists". The Spartans wouldn't have the slightest comprehension of Modern Age fascism. On the other hand, the venal and chauvinistic, enervated, arrogant, merciless, bullying, spoiled, weakling ancient Persians DID have quite a lot in common with many of today's Israeli Defense Force. Bullies are pretty much the same in all countries and all ages. Iran should take a close look at Israel as if looking in a mirror, and vice versa. Sent at: 2008 07 24