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Message: Entry: William Hawkins, Loser Link: http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/william_hawkins_loser#5962 Post contents: Sid, I agree with Tom in that I am less pessimistic that there is no "real America" than some of my fellow secessionists. Samuel Huntington thinks there is a "real America,” for better or worse, despite all the disparate parts. I tend to agree, based partially on the time I spent overseas. Didn’t you recognize a lot of assumptions that Americans held in common that made us unique when you were in Europe? However, I have to part ways with Tom on secession. It is not infantile. It is a NECESSARY outcome. Although as I said above it is not right around the corner. Tom’s objection was spoken like a true Michigander. But I trust that Tom would not advocate our invasion should the modern day Confederates follow through on our plan. Sent at: 2008 07 24