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Message: Entry: There Are No Neocons in Foxholes Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/viet_nam_redux#6 Post contents: Taki I think your hatred of Bush has warped your judgement like a moonbat. You are factually wrong on almost every count. To wit: 1. Most governments including the Saudis thought Saddam had chemical and other weapons. He'd had a long history of having them and using them, and had been caught cheating on that, nukes, ballistic missiles since the 1991 Cease-fire. No "deal" could be made with the guy because he kept cheating. If Jordan, the Saudis, the UN, even the French thought Saddam had WMDs (which might have been shipped to Syria, or back to Russia, or simply buried) then how could the US Intel actually "know" he didn't? Intel on Saddam was a black box, essentially. 2. The old anti-semitic charge of dual loyalty echoes what Lefties like Fonda, Cindy Sheehan, Michael Moore, and Howard Dean's lunatics say. The worst thing I can about your comments is that they could have been lifted word-for-word from Daily Kos or ANSWER. 3. America's security is not going to be attained by moonbat efforts ala Fonda to get "loved." Being "respected" has about as much to do with America's security as Shaq's ability to do calculus in his head has to do with playing Center in the NBA. 4. The US as the engine of Globalization has been identified by Islamists from Al Qaeda to Iran as a mortal threat to Islam and the Islamic community. The idea of blue jeans, music, and personal freedom is simply incompatible with the vision of society that Khomeni or Qutb have. Conflict is inevitable and must be managed to the advantage of the US since no "deal" can be struck. The US merely existing threatens Islam. 5. This is an old struggle, and continuation of what Washington to Jefferson faced. It's easier and cheaper at first to pay off the terrorists or Barbary Pirates, and that's what the US did until the costs consumed 20% of the Federal Budget. 6. Iran is a mortal threat to the US, has been since 1979 when Jimmy Carter cowardly quivered in fear of doing anything about the act of war (invading our Embassy). Our continued weakness and appeasement of this enemy like the Barbary Pirates has only emboldened them. From Reagan's half-baked Iran-Contra idiocy after Iranian Beirut barracks bombings to Clinton's suppression of Iran's orchestration (so says his own appointee, Louis J. Freeh, former FBI Director) in Khobar Towers, we have responded to Iranian acts of war with cowering cowardice. Inviting only more attacks. Such as Iranian supply of advanced weapons to the militias and jihadis killing Americans, and kidnapping and killing our troops. Weakness invites more aggression. 7. Nuclear technology is 62 years old, well understood, as are ballistic missiles. North Korean, Pakistani, and Chinese technical assistance make this more akin to setting up a semiconductor fabrication plant in Malaysia than anything else. Difficult and expensive but not prohibitively so when you sit on a sea of oil. 8. Iran's ambitions (US out of the ME, Iran reconstituting the Persian Empire under Shia Islamist guise) can ONLY be accomplished by nukes, and makes WAR with the US as inevitable as it was with Japan in the late thirties. Everyone can see the US has only two choices, both of which suck. *Surrender and run away from the ME, in the hope that Iran will hit us last with their (eventual) ICBMs. *Fight on the most favorable terms to defeat Iran before it goes nuclear. Either way we will have War. That Bush is incompetent and a fool however does not change this. [Iranians going back to Khomeni and including the "moderate" Rafsanjani have said Iran can destroy Israel because of their larger population and willingness to be martyred. Considering the Basij -- hundreds of thousands of young boys as young as 8 being sent against Iraq as human minesweepers; I'd take past Iranian actions as making this threat very credible indeed. A regime that would sacrifice so many boys still playing with toys to clear mines would not shirk from nuking Israel knowing at least half of Iran would die.] Sent at: 2008 07 24