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Message: Entry: Thoughts on the the Antichrist: Part I, The Inversion of Values Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/thoughts_on_the_the_antichrist_i_the_inversion_of_values#614 Post contents: RE: John Lowell Don't be sniffy. If Mark Shea wants to engage the proponents of torture and argue against them, bully for him. Walking off in a huff doesn't accomplish much. Besides, scholastic theologians debated quite extensively on the legitimacy of torture--which, alas, the Holy Inquisition (the papal, Roman, as well as the state-controlled Spanish Inquisition) used extensively. What's shocking is that one of the darker abuses of the Reformation/Counter-Reformation (Protestants used it on Jesuits and witches) has come back into "respectability" thanks to the blind, stupid terror provoked by bin Laden and stoked by the dry-drunk frat boy coward-in-chief. Sent at: 2008 10 13