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Message: Entry: Thoughts on the the Antichrist: Part I, The Inversion of Values Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/thoughts_on_the_the_antichrist_i_the_inversion_of_values#641 Post contents: I'm not as pessimistic as Mr. Richert and Mr. Berg that losing the Iraq war would lead to a vengeful more militaristic US. The good point of the historical ignorance of Americans is the lack of grudge holding. The Vietnam War came much closer than the Iraq war has so far to tearing America apart. Yet today, Vietnam entertains American tourists - many of them the veterans of that war. The comparison with Mexico fails on three counts. The US southwest was once part of Mexico, no one in Mexico advocates war to recover it, and the immigrants who come here do so for economic reasons. Very helpful effects of the US losing in Iraq might be the beginning of the end of Israeli dominance of American mid-east policy and of American dependence on Saudi oil. Sent at: 2008 09 05