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Message: Entry: The Neocons and Charles Maurras Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/leo_strauss_the_neocons_and_charles_maurras#6717 Post contents: I wish my opponent could quote a papal or magisterial document written after 1958. Readers should note that he never does. Including ones about enough prosperity for living and supporting a family. Materialism indeed! To suggest that I'm arguing for materialism is equivalent that to someone saying that my opponent is arguing for destitution. To suggest that I'm arguing that the Voice of the People is the Voice of God is equivalent to someone saying that my opponent is arguing for the divine right of Kings. At least I don't make up arguments and put them into my opponent's mouth, or pull up Red Herrings. Wow! Germany really suffered under the Christian Democrats, huh? How their success must anger the Clerical Fascists -- who never miss a chance to denigrate human rights, civil rights, civil liberty, or democracy. So Europe is too secular? Far, far better than what it was under ol' Adi and Benito - to say noting of Monsignor Josef Tiso and the Hlinka Guard in Slovakia, Archbishop Stepinac and Ustase in Croatia (note well, you Serbian Nationalists!), The Arrow Cross in Hungary, Codreanu and Iron Guard in Romania, Vichy France, and that dictator and thug, Englebert Dollfuß -- all people Clerical Fascists don't want you to know about. Deny this Christian Democrat superiority to these men and you approach Clerical Fascism. Plus note the Semi-Pelagian Heresy slipping in: that the faith might be coerced or forced -- be it by Louis XIV, be it by Cromwell, be it by Pius IV of odious memory, be it by Clerical Fascists. Faith is a free gift of Grace, not something that anyone, Church or State, may demand or enforce, or punish when absent; its reception, with the help of Cooperating Grace, is also Free. Anything else was condemned by the Council of Orange as Semi-Pelagianism. Where the Church or the State can force no one, there Catholic teaching is honored. Such are Liberal Democracy, Social Democracy, and Christian Democracy. Some other regimes also honor this principle. Ironic isn't it? I'm accused of dishonoring a Saint because it was a poor politician and worse economist. Those who would force the faith dishonor the very Word of God. To say nothing of helping Hitchens & Co. make their case. (Granted it took Inquisitionists in the Church a while to live up to the Church's own teaching about freedom.) By the way, the Clerical Fascists will be grinding their teeth in fury on Friday, 26 November at 10 a.m., when in the cathedral of Linz, Austria, will take place beatification of Servant of God Franz Jagerstatter. John Lukacs, on the other hand, will be beaming with joy, as will I! Jagerstatter, not dictators and thugs, is the man the Church would honor. Note well that I'm not calling my opponent a Clerical Fascist or heretic. He's mentioned documents that I'll peruse. I thank him. There are other documents, including "Au milieu des sollicitudes" and "Lumen gentium" -- both, by the way, on the Vatican Website. Sent at: 2008 05 16