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Message: Entry: Big Brother in Brussels Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/big_brother_in_brussels#6823 Post contents: The "Kirk loves Jim Crow, Kirk as KKK, Kirk as an avuncular William Pierce" won't fly. It ain't in Kirk's publicly stated principles, those principles which I mentioned previously. Racialism can in no way be deducted from these principles. And quotes offered (without citation, and thus questionable) are (or would be) the Kirk of the 50s and 60s anyway. Intelligent people change. It wasn't even in his principles even then. I could care less if he were a hypocrite regarding his own practice. I could care less if one opinion or action of his were to contradict his principles or be inconsistent with them. Ditto about Jefferson. When Kirk in his later writings complained about the condition of Detroit, he never used racial terms. Kirk knew the tradition of English civil liberty and English civil rights. He knew the consequences of that tradition. Jim Crow, Slavery, and racial codes for voting went against that tradition. Instead of being a member of Christian Identity, Kirk was a real Catholic later in his life (and never a Potemkin one); he knew the prohibition against racism in "Populorum progressio", ## 62, 63 (Denzinger 4466-4467). He also knew what Archbishop Rummel rightly did to segregationist Catholics. Catholics who advocate Jim Crow and who were to practice it would get the same treatment today from Mother Church. Maybe the editor should invite Kirk's daughter, a journalist, to tell us whether or not racialism were among Kirk's foundational principles, and whether or not he spouted off the "n" word every five minutes. (The answer is of course "no") True conservatives were correct to oppose the dismememberment [sic] and destruction of the Constitution in the 1950s and 1960s We can assume there's no 14 Amendment in the Constitution? Forget for a minute the appalling act of telling a little black girl (or a Jewish, or Greek, or Catholic girl) that she can't have any ice cream. Instead, just imagine that Andy Capp is driving, is out of gas, and the only available gas station open for miles around refuses to sell him gas because of of his "race", ethnic identity, religion, IQ, eye color, or because he's left handed. Now that would make Andy a little irked. And it would make for a social order of such hatred and resentment that it would turn the USA into cross between Lebanon and the Balkans. And its a moot point anyway: we're not going back to the old accommodation anymore than the Stuart Pretender would be our King any time soon. To think otherwise to have the thoughts of those who "simply don’t know what they are talking about" and would be "la-la-land" indeed. Scruton as Hamiltonian Whig Neocon is also absurd. Burke believed in freedom for blacks and Catholic Irishmen. Conservatives who aren't Burkean, ain't conservative. Sent at: 2008 09 06