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Entry: Hitchens' Haj Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/hitchens_haj#7000 Post contents: These muddied unholy waters need more clarification. Hitchens and the Cultural Marxists don't want a "truly secular state"; they want an atheist state. The two things aren't the same at all. Communist China is one of the most NON-secular states in the world. All religion is under strict control of, and undermined by, the atheist Communist Party, a party avowedly dedicated (like Hitchens) to the abolition of God. Recently the ludicrous bloody Chinese Communist Party have ruled that it is illegal Tibetan Buddhist Lamas to reincarnate without permission from the Communist Party. There's nothing secular about that. It's an atheist-theocracy. (Is there a word for that?) What WOULD be a vast improvement would be if the Chinese Communist Party simply refrained from meddling in religious affairs at all. Hitchens is a pathetic sack of wasted protoplasm, but I don't disagree with his expressed desire for a "truly secular state", because he himself doesn't believe in it. He wants an atheist state along the lines of Communist China, where the role of the state is to abolish God. What he DOESN't want - not really - is a secular state like Indonesia where religion AND mutual tolerance do flourish fairly well, similar to what he thought was going on in Moorish Spain. The truth is, that's exactly what he would like to abolish and replace with a spiritual wasteland like the preternaturally ugly, morally dead land of Atheist China. Sent at: 2008 07 08