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Message: Entry: A Tale of Two Normans: Podhoretz and Finklestein Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/a_tale_of_two_normans_podhoretz_and_finklestein#7932 Post contents: Thank you for this article. Now I have something to show my liberal and neo-conservative friends that will better explain what I have been telling them for a long time, that it is all staged. You couldn't have come up witha a begger metaphor than professional wrestling. The current political debate in this country is only allowed to take place between a far radical left and a middle radical left. The far lefties argue against the war, but accept as a given that homosexuals and women in Islamic countries are in dire need of our help. In this way they can argue all they want against their opponent without undermining completely their position. I have to believe though that there are at least a few far left liberals who adhere to a liberalism that both rejects war and also respects other cultures much the same way the paleo right does. Of course as much as such a group does in fact exist, they are ridiculed ain much the same way the paleos are for the crime of arguing outside the accepted rules of the debate which are more or less simply put thus; the one thing that cannot be questioned by any side of the debate is the moral imperative that the U.S. and her allies have to spread democracy to the rest of the world. Sent at: 2008 05 15