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Message: Entry: A Tale of Two Normans: Podhoretz and Finklestein Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/a_tale_of_two_normans_podhoretz_and_finklestein#7951 Post contents: What the author calls paleoconservatives is in the main media and discussions instead often described as "extreme right" or even "nazi", with or without the neo- prefix. It is often described as something that would turn the clock back. To injustice, to racial segregation, to slavery. Conservatism is among younger generations generally viewed as something that, if implemented, would deny them the pleasures of sex, drugs and rocknroll. And those things are what interests them most. If you really want to make a useful contribution to the conservative cause, present a theory, or ideal, that includes and positively defines all citizens and groups in the society. Even those most us would deem "worthless". A system that can find a place for everyone will also find unexpected allies in tough times. The conservatives of today are pretty much repeating the political mistakes of Adolf Hitler when he invaded the Soviet Union. At the time of the German invasion many Russians and other nationalities in fact welcomed the Germans as liberators from the Stalin regime. But once they learned that the nazis had prepared a role as untermenschen (subhumans), or slaves, or corpses, for them, they had no choice, they had to side with Stalin and communism. Lesser of two evils. Norman Finkelstein is a brave and brilliant man and should immediately be picked up by either a university or some other similar institution, so that his talent isn't wasted in a shoe store. I wish he was one of us. Brainier guy is hard to find. Let us learn from his experience, and from the experiences of other people like him, that it isn't enough to be right or to be better read than your opposition, you must have strong social support too. Did anyone draw his sword (or rather pen) for Finkelstein? Did he get any encouragement and support? Not that I'm aware of. The other day I was watching a movie, Transporter 2, and the hero in it constantly got into fights with various groups of crooks. They were 2, 5, 8, 20 and he was always alone. He always won the fights. I spontaneously commented: "These crooks must be real idiots, they attack him one at the time, get beat, then get replaced by another idiot, who gets beat too". Now, this seems to be the tacticts of the conservatives too. One by one they charche the Leviathan, get fried, and then get replaced by another fool. No wonder nothing happens. Sent at: 2008 05 15