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Entry: A Tale of Two Normans: Podhoretz and Finklestein Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/a_tale_of_two_normans_podhoretz_and_finklestein#8054 Post contents: Mr. Ramus is quite correct that genuine Conservatism talks in terms of culture and history, not genes. Culture and history can be and have been shared. For example, there is a Near Eastern religion, founded by a Semite, with its source in Judaism, that's been shared with Greeks, Romans, Teutons, Celts, and Slavs -- for starters. And, I being Anglo-Saxon-Celt, I was obliged to learn a respect for education from Greeks and Germans and to take cooking lessons from Frenchmen and Italians. As for the rest of Mr. Ramus' argument, with respect to the "nation-state", I urge him to reflect that his argument is the same as that of Richelieu, Cromwell, Cavour, Bismarck, the Pan-Slavist Czar, the advocates of the Anschluß, and Dishonest Abe. This is not good company for Mr. Ramus to keep. Truth be told, "nation" is a fiction what was invented by The State Leviathan to grant him the same legitimacy as was once held by Kings asserting divine right. Nation-state is a Jacobin invention, one that an Italian gent, Buonaparte by name, loved. More bad company to keep. Take the arguments of "White Christian PaleoConservative" and "Edmund Burke IV" and change the color. You'll then have to life the race Jena race-hustlers that McDonald and Gottfried rightly decry. "White Christian" and "Burke" to Sharpton, Jackson, Jeffries, and Welsing are (so to speak) brothers under the skin. Tu quoque. "teachem2think" plays the school ma'rm, a game two can play. He could start by learning to spell, capitalize, and space correctly his own name rather than mimic the orthography of Rap musicians. "[B]ooboisie" should be followed by a comma, because he is joining two independent clauses with "and". "K" is not a complete sentence, or even a word, and needs no apostrophe before it. If he means "O.K." -- the chief offense of American English -- he mimics Rappers even more. So, Tu quoque again. Not that I don't make enough errors of my own when writing in haste. Of course, it isn't Adriana's , punctuation and orthography that he dislikes. Sent at: 2008 05 15