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Message: Entry: The Origins of the Pod People Link: http://www.takimag.com/site/article/the_origins_of_the_pod_people#9548 Post contents: @ Kirt, "Put another way, what exactly would Stalin have done differently had he actually been a Communist rather than a Russian nationalist in deep cover? And don’t say he would not have betrayed other socialists or made agreements with non-Communists" Okay, good question. Here is what Stalin would have done differently if he had really believed in international Communism: 1. If Stalin had really believed in Marxist-Leninist-Communism, first of all he would not have created the terror-famine throughout the USSR and especially in Ukraine (in the early 1930s); rather he would have strived to create more sense of "international brotherhood" between the Kremlin and the workers and farmers of Ukraine. But he did the opposite - the main target of Stalin's terror-famine was Ukraine, and Ukrainian nationalists - because Stalin wanted to bring the Ukrainian nationalists to heel, in the service of Great Russia. 2. Kirt, my friend, you said, "And don’t say he would not have betrayed other socialists or made agreements with non-Communists - this was stock in trade of the Bolsheviks under Lenin and Trotsky as well." My answer? NO IT WASN'T! Or rather, Lenin and the early Bolsheviks did NOT compromise with non-Communists in the same WAY that Stalin did! Under Lenin, the Russian Empire was diminished. Lenin gave away vast portions of the former Russian Empire, to his (Lenin's) bloody German friends. The Russian Empire LOST a lot of land under Lenin - because Lenin was not a statesman; Lenin was an ideologue. Then, under Stalin, the Russian Empire RETRIEVED its former possessions. So, Kirt, I do not accept your posited premise about Stalin making deals with non-Communists. Yes, Stalin made deals with non-Communists - especially with Hitler - but Stalin did so like a statesman whose aim was to defend and expand the borders of the Russian Empire, the OPPOSITE of what Lenin did! 3. If Stalin had been SERIOUS about "Communism", he would have made an alliance, or at least a treaty, with AMERICA AND BRITAIN in 1939, instead of with Nazi Germany - because there were a HELL of a lot more believers in "Communism" in America and Britain in 1939, than there were in Germany. (Well - and I'm saying this with an English accent - all of the GERMAN Communists were either dead or in prison in 1939, you know... :-) Thus, if Stalin and his terrified government of old fashioned Russians, had REALLY cared about "International Communism" in 1939, then they would have carried on trying to convert Britain and American to "Communism" - because there were many more Communists in Britain and America than in Germany in 1939 - instead of making a deal with Hitler, the professed "anti-communist". But at any rate, Kirt, I enjoy these discussions with you, and your sharp wits help me to sharpen mine, and I think you and I are on the same side at the end of the day. May the Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you, Kirt, my friend. Sent at: 2008 11 22