Spitzer on the Hook
Salon’s Glenn Greenwald is asking why does Eliot Spitzer have to resign because he was caught patronizing a prostitute—does anyone really care? Yet Greenwals confesses that he has no personal sympathy for the guy, considering Spitzer’s zealous high-profile prosecution, while attorney general, of at least two major girls-for-hire operations.
I’m listening to Tucker Carlson assert his libertarianism—“Tucker,” says Chris Matthew, “I know you’re a libertarian, although there are always exceptions in particular questions”—as he asks: where’s the crime?
Yet, as Greenwald admits, Spitzer has been a high-profile prosecutor of “immorality” from the get-go: and that’s why he ought to be prosecuted, on libertarian grounds. The rule should be that only politicians who pose as guardians of “public morality” be brought up on charges—of coercive hypocrisy. Ordinary johns should be let go.


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LOL !
guess next best thing to keeping out govt of consensual sex ..
.. The rule should be that only politicians who pose as guardians of “public morality” be brought up on charges—of coercive hypocrisy. Ordinary johns should be let go. ..
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Spitzer has no shame. He used a hedge funder manager as a cover for his romp with a hooker:
http://www.economicanalyticsgroup.com/2008/03/spitzer-used-hedge-fund-manager-as.html
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badri,
Keeping the government out when it comes to
sex is impossible. Any time the state
gets involved in anything, someone is
getting screwed....
Don’t know what the proper libertarian
response should be to Eliot “Bad Boy”
Spitzer, but it sure is entertaining!
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Spitzer was apparently caught in an FBI wiretap. Perhaps why the Democrats have been so docile concerning Bush’s war crimes is that they have been blackmailed into silence by the Bush administration’s ongoing unconstitutional surveillance frenzy.
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The question that interests me is whether the women
were prostitutes of their own free will, that is
that they were not victims of trafficking.
If they were, then Spitzer should do hard time for
aiding and abetting slavery.
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Even Jesus - the turn-the-other-cheek and die-by-the-sword pacifist - could not control his wrath when faced with brazen hypocrisy. Justin is right; stone him, and let the others go.
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Three thoughts as a libertarian on Spitzer’s predicament: (1) One must never do anything to assist the state in enforcing unjust laws, even though the person in question is a scumbag. If one is on a jury, one votes to acquit a Spitzer on a prostitution charge, or a Limbaugh on a drug charge, then afterwards one denounces the defendant as vile and loathsome scum with whom no decent person would ever associate. (2) While one should never assist the state, one is under no obligation to assist a Spitzer or a Limbaugh in their defense. If anything, assisting these hypocrites should be looked upon as , at best, poor judgment. Why not help a poor and friendless person instead? (3) Since the situation in America is beyond hope anyway, if these powerful hypocrites go down, there is no harm in Schadenfreude over their fate, any more than over a Communist official in the USSR going down over dealing in the black market.
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So why hasnt Vitter or Craig resigned?
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It would seem that persecution is a good thing,
not only for sex, but for religion, drugs, and
much else beside. Crop the kudzu and it just
grows back in more luxurious glory! And when a
persecutor gets caught in his or her own net...well
this NY guy with the name that sounds like a
German drink I don’t have any opinion of one
way or the other, but I always loved the anecdote
about the emperor who, drooling over the plight
of the Christians, leaned so far over the colloseum
balcony that he fell in and was eaten by a lion!
Oh wait, did I say I was indifferent to NY democrats?
Will this get Hillary in trouble? Ahem, ahem…
we must hold Albany to the highest possible moral
standards!
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“Victimless” or not, what Spitzer did was in violation of the Mann Act which makes it a federal crime to cross state lines for prostitution. Further, the reason he got caught was because the FBI was investigating the New York-based group shipping women in violation of the law and laundering the payments. It will be interesting to learn what tax laws Spitzer may have violated here.
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I think we should look at the good things that Spitzer has done. For we victims of the “Lyme Disease” fraud, Spitzer going after the insurance companies was the third best thing that ever happened for us.
The Muslims clerics say women who expose themselves in the way that Western women do, and who then are victims of sexual assault, are like leaving meat out on the table and then blaming the cat. In other words it is not the men’s fault, but the women’s.
So: “Women are meat and men are animals, but the animals are to be forgiven and the meat stoned.”
I’m thinking sex for hire should be made not a crime.
Spitzer could use the ayatollah defense?
What am I saying????
Kathleen M. Dickson
http://www.actionlyme.org
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Spitzer is a hypocrite. It is a given. But why do ya’ll screaming for his blood?! Is he worse than Clinton? Did four thousand young people die in Iraq as a result of his actions? He should be disgraced, forced out of his office and forgotten, but not persecuted. Because demanding his persecution makes us all the hypocrites, too. Next time you want to forgive some poor john for going to a prostitute - remember Spitzer. Either we agree that going to a prostitute IS a victimless crime once and for all, or we are exercising the selective judgment and should be ashamed of ourselves.
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MetaCynic, I think you may be righ. Political blackmail is not new. I question though Spitzer’s judgement. He knew what the stakes were if he were caught and that he may be undrer scrutiny. He is a Clinton supporter and this is bound to hurt her. But surely this may be among the first examples as to the political use of wiretapping and illegal access to personal information. You can expect more of it. The timing is remarkable. (Just before an important primary in the East.)
I happen to think that here is one more reason why women may be more stable politicians. They are less likely to engage in sex scandals.
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Look. What about the reports that the ring leader of this ‘Emperor Circle’ business, Mark Brener, was a naturalized US citizen from Israel and had over $600,000 in cash and two Israeli passports when the Feds raided his apartment. This is not about sex. It is about the most corrupt, bloated (but pious) elected officials putting themselves at the mercy of blackmailers from ‘other countries’. (I think Israel is still a foreign country.) This and the case of Governor McGreevy stand out in terms of the potential for elected officials being blackmailed into decisions and policies which would seriously harm us...the funny little citizens with mortgages and crooked teeth. Its one thing to be a Fascist out of shared ideology and another to enact Fascist legislation and vote to go to war because of blackmail over sex, drugs, gambling or other personal vices. Spitzer should go to prison - after we find out what he was being shaken down for...dream on...My guess is that Mark Brener will soon choke on a pretzel or skip bail for the Promised Land.
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This is called karma, or what goes around comes around or the biblical you reap what you sow.
This man is the ultimate hypocrit. Americans should be proud of him.
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Spitzer evidently saw no contradiction in prosecuting call girl operations, while using their services.
Obama evidently sees no contradiction in overseeing the War on Drugs, and sending college kids to jail for doing exactly what he did as a college kid.
And, the vast majority of voters have no problem with this, either.
As Raimondo says, the jets in 9-11 tore a hole in the space-time continuum, and we’ve all ended up in Bizarro World.
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