There is something schizophrenic about neocons.  They talk tough, but don’t follow through and forget always that foreign policy must serve American interests. Their liberalism--in the form of humanitarian universalism--always reasserts itself, and it messes up our strategic and military doctrine at the most basic levels when we actually do need to kick ass, as in Afghanistan. 

We’re too busy worrying about legislatures and the rights of farmers and Hamid Kharzi’s oriental ukases and our popularity among the primitive Afghan farmers and not doing enough to find and kill the Taliban and al Qaeda, as if focusing solely on the latter mission would be wrong or selfish.

Goldberg an advocate of the White Man’s Burden? Who knew?

You are right of course, Chris.  The only reason to be in Afghanistan is to kill the people who were involved in attacking us on 9/11--Al-Qaeda and their Taliban protectors.  And there was absolutely no reason to ever go into Iraq, as rereading Goldberg’s pathetic justification for the invasion makes clear.

To follow up on Tom’s good point about the Cold War, it should also be added that Lithuania at that time was still part of the Soviet Union and the crackdown in Vilnius was believed by many at the time to be the beginning of a new wave of repression that would keep the Soviet Union together.  The natural position that most Cold Warriors would have taken was one of protest against such action.  In fact, it was the begnning of the end of the USSR, but that was not necessarily obvious at the time.  Of course, the relevant point re: Lithuania is that Mr. Buchanan did not advocate starting WWIII to free Lithuania.  The crazy people who try to hunt up inconsistencies in Mr. Buchanan’s record are the ones who want to extend security guarantees to Georgia and Ukraine, which is neither pragmatic nor moral.

Oh the world weary demands of a Neo-Conservative....always having to worry about writing exactly what the entitled wankers who own the paper want them to write and hearing the bad news that their fancy pants LaCanche Stove is back-ordered and so they will be unable to have their Vermont/Sonoma Country house caterers cook on site for that swell July 4th party and always....always having to keep up the war chants for their occupied GOP in between appearing on some infernally idiotic cable news show to babble on and on in some of the most counter-intuitive reasoning in the history of mankind, Neanderthals included. To be so regularly and outlandishly wrong is never easy.

Theirs is a burdensome existence, much like a high paid television weatherman, forecasting things incorrectly and having to accept unseemly payment for it. I pray for them every evening in the manner of the Marquis de Sade’s nightly prayer from Vincennes. Not to be anti-semitic nor indelicate, but....It begins with something about “swine”.

Poor Neo-Cons, poor poor neocons, San Francisco is about to name their new Sewage Treatment Plant after our beloved Neo-Con Bamboozled President and there is no end to Superfund Sites, Sewage Treatment Facilities and Landfills we can name after them as a token of their profound contribution to one of the more brazenly idiotic epochs in the history of Empires.

I can’t believe he actually praised Michael Ledeen for saying “Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy country and throw it against the wall, just to show we mean business.”

He then has the audacity to attack Pat for being inconsistent and even suggests Pat’s a racist by implying Pat wants to sever ties with Puerto Rico. 

Have these guys no shame?  Even if you really feel this way, how the heck can you even express it in public if one of your supposed goals is to show the world how much we care.

Tom Friedman made a similar dumb comment to Charlie Rose.  Check out his statement in this video.  His gem starts at about 2 mins and 20 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOF6ZeUvgXs

“I mean going in - guns blazing if necessary - for truth and justice… We should spend billions and billions doing it.  We should put American troops in harm’s way....This would be America and its allies doing right as we see it.”

There is no better example of what Justin Raimondo calls “Bizarro World” - that rip in the time/space continuum into which we were thrust by 9/11. That tragedy was hijacked by the neocons and was recast as our clarion call to Mideast democracy-building. Well… so long as those crusades are attached to nurturing Israel’s security and regional hegemony - forever.

And we can rely on Goldberg’s reasoning and foresight. After all, he’s a genius. We know the neocons are geniuses because they tell us they are. They pop out with this ridiculous, moronic bullshit and it’s shoved down our throats, relentlessly… laughingly. They know they can burble dirty limericks and spit in our face and there’s nothing we can do. The absurdity of their existence drives home the insult of their status and they love it! Joshua Goldberg is a National Review Online columnist! Remember when that meant something? Even today, the jackass has prestige. He has a measure of fame. He has damn audience!

We read him!!! ..For truth and fucking JUSTICE!!! Who’s stupid now?!

Their dirty, playground jokes become our reality… our future…

“1. We admitted we were powerless over NRO—that our lives had become unmanageable.”

Beyond that, I really wonder when I see such a thoughtful person writing something like “I do not doubt Goldberg’s sincerity in advocating violent humanitarianism as the basis of American foreign policy.” I would think that the first step of backing out of this quagmire we’re facing would be to start *assuming insincerity* when confronting this kind of dangerous nonsense. The world makes a whole lot more sense that way.

“I mean going in - guns blazing if necessary - for truth and justice… We should spend billions and billions doing it.  We should put American troops in harm’s way....This would be America and its allies doing right as we see it.”

These people are so blatantly sociopathic and detached from reality, their screeds are now reaching the level of self-parody. And these are the nut cases that mainstream media promote as great American thinkers. There is such a sadistic, immature, stunted quality to their reasoning, reading them is the intellectual equivalent to watching a pre-teen wielding a loaded pistol in in a crowded bedroom, pointing it at his buddies to show off. It should make normal people cringe, but apparently it doesn’t. This country is in real trouble. The time for hand-wringing is over. These people out to be put away.

I mean going in--guns blazing if necessary--for truth and justice.  I am quite serious about this....We should spend billions and billions doing it.  We should put American troops in harm’s way....This would be America and its allies doing right as we see it.

I for one would be willing to pay his way to Zimbabwe. I’ll even help buy him some ammunition.... Oh, wait. He means some cracker high school dropout, or maybe a Black kid from the South Bronx. Not himself personally. Someone from a family poor enough that the Army seems like a good job opportunity. It’s someone else’s job to die for what JG thinks is right. After all, if they were smart, they’d have a degree and make a fancy living sending other people off to die in some God-forsaken spider-infested third-world hellhole. Because it’s the right thing to do.

Why does anyone respond to this Goldberg joker?  Why does anyone read him?  His writing
and analytic quality are adolescent.

What has he done but have a mother involved in a tawdry White House scandal?  What
qualifies him as a commentator?

He’s an Israel-firster and Buchanan hater.  He only gets attention when dupes like
Piatak give it to him.

Buster:

Unfortunately, you are wrong.  His column appears in the LA Times and other papers, and a number of people (including some who should know better) do take him seriously.  Writing about him and pointing out how ridiculous his views are is the way to make fewer people take him seriously.

Buster is correct.

You do not have an audience anywhere near as multitudinous as the LA Times. You are preaching to a choir which does not waste its time reading JGoldberg and/or NRO, for that matter, and if the choir members do read his idiocies, said choir members know they’re digesting something less nutritious than a bad marshmellow.

Buster is completely wrong. When Goldberg or the other Neo-cons attack real conservatives like Buchanan or Taki, we come here to see a response and rebuttal. Keep up the good work.

teachem2think:

When someone attacks Pat Buchanan, I will often want to defend Buchanan, as I did in this instance.  If you don’t want to read what I write, you don’t have to.  Since my piece had Goldberg’s name in the title, you had fair warning the piece would deal with Goldberg. 

Yes, I know far more people read the LA Times than read this site.  The one who doesn’t know that is Buster, who wrote that Goldberg only gets attention when I give it to him.  If only that were the case.

Thank you, pabloH!