Justin Raimondo

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Posted by Justin Raimondo on March 10, 2008

I may have answered Richard’s objections to Barack Obama here, but I think, in judging a political candidate, one has to consider the issue in context: that is, who is the other candidate? The answer to this question should put everything in its proper perspective: Mad John McCain. Richard isn’t quite convinced that Obama in the White House would mean a “return to realism,” but then again, what’s “realism” when we’re measuring it against the views of a man who yearns for a Hundred Year War in Iraq—and throughout the Middle East? 

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For one, Justin, I also understand your reason for supporting Obama on the one-issue of “out of Iraq” as the most important issue. This is legitimate and you are not compromising your libertarian and other principles. This is an all important elections, after all. Susan Einsenhower, the lifelong Republican, and daughter of Dwight Einsenhower, has endorsed (first Ron Paul) and then Barack Obama.
Yet one could ask why do you not support Nader, like before, for the same reason. Would it be as you think a vote for Nader could well be a wasted vote?
Now with regard to Obama’s main foreign policy advisers Zbigniew Brzezinski and his son Mark (daughter Mika is with MSNBC and one son or family member is part of McCain’s team) is IMHO an issue of great concern: he could lead the US out of Iraq (after 16 months?) indeed, but is actually more dangerous than the neoconservatives, in that Brzezinski ( a born Polish) seeks a fight with Russia and China (e.g. bigger and stronger militaristic nations), e.g. a new cold war. Obama would of course not elaborate on this and I think he will with his relative little experience be dependent upon his advisers with foreign policy decisions and thinking.

Also: the ultimate decision on the Democratic candidate will be only in two months at the earliest. Hillary (a monster indeed) is extremely determined to get the presidency and she will not give up without a strong fight. What do you do if there is a forced Obama/Clinton or CLinton/Obama ticket?

In order to further the cause of pull-out of Iraq and the adoption of a non-interventionist foreign policy, is it not a better strategy to focus on an impeachment of Bush/Cheney etc. Bruce Fein, adviser also to Ron Paul is advocating this and with his re-election kucinich and others are in a stronger position to bring about such action in congress. One can also look at international legal efforts against Bush/Cheney with regard to the illegitimate Iraq war & invasion and combine with them, if Congress does not have the guts to go ahead with it. The announcement of such a process of legal action alone (once Bush/Cheney are out of office and looses their diplomatic immunity) could help a lot in swaying and pressuring the GOP (War party as you call them) to radically abandon Bush/Cheney, also McBush (McCain = Bush3) and any interventionist policy, in any case in Iraq. This could pave the way for a Ron paul nomination. Of course this is not such a likely scenario, but certainly a possibility and should be looked into. One cannot do much about congress decisions, but one could co-ordinate with international parties wanting to take such action against Bush/Cheney. I know a few years ago there is already a group (lawfirm) in Geneva, Switzerland representing political left with this intention.

Could we sum the issue by saying that Obama is wrong in just about everything else except his idea of getting out of Iraq.

Yes.

That single “got it right” may, however, be so important as to outweigh the negatives

Not for me.  While I am against unnecessary foreign intervention, one reason it seems to me our troop levels are low is that we have aborted 30,000,000+ potential recruits.  Obama would only make it worse.

So McCain is your pro-life savior?

Posted by daveg on Mar 10, 2008.

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An anti-statist supporting Obama simply because he is the only candidate, aside from Kucinich and Paul to push non-interventionism is like if Murray Rothbard supported the FED because it would now advocate smaller government expenditure while it was busily engaged in printing more money in the basement.

Obama’s rhetoric of change, his pugnaciousness in the face of the Clinton Triangulation Machine (a bookend to the Rovian Toxin) and his opposition to the war are encouraging to watch. One would like to see him succeed just to close the drunken chapter of our last 16 years.

However, make no mistake, the fundamental problem will continue to enlarge.

One shudders to express it but perhaps the only way to sanity is for these foolhardy statists and reckless interventionists to stagger the lapsed-Republic....as they most surely will....so that more sober heads can return the Republic to sanity and probity. By any measure, it would appear we are waving flags toward our destruction already.

The citizenry appears a tad slow on the uptake. Once they realize they have been roundly had, the Crusading Statist will be a lesson for us rather than a parsing candidate.

This is a joke, right? I mean, get real, the Republicans have no chance whatsoever of winning this election.

Being afraid of McKillus is not a good enough reason to vote for Obombus.

I will vote Libertarian, as I have for the past 28 years.

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