“Obanism” is probably a work in progress and it’s not inconceibale that he could attract a few libertarians or conservatives in the process of evolving as a candidate. It all depends on how Democratic presidential nominee Obama (assuming that will happen) will respond to McCain’s attacks on his foreign policy views, especially on Iraq. Obama could either sharpen his differences with McCain on Iraq, Iran and other foreign policy issues—or he could try to re-brand himself as a liberal- interventionist. My guess that on economic issues (at least that’s what Paul Krugman is arguing), Obama is more fre-market oriented than Hillary. And if he bashes affirmative action, he could also draw even more supporters on the political right. At this point and from my perspective, the only reason to vote for Obama is to deny (100-years-in-Iran)McCain the presidency. But I do urge everyone not to raise their expectations about Obama. He is bound to disappoint everyone if and when he arrives to Washington.

I see Obama as the only credible candidate likely to kick the neocons out of government and take on the Israel Lobby. I also hope to see him sufficiently daunted by a massively reconstituted Congress that he’ll behave himself on illegal immigration.  As it is I think he can be trusted to gut the salary-destroying work visa programs, wildly unfair “free trade” and similar pernicious nonsense.  If the particulars he’ll have to deliver over the next few months start to look too ambiguous on any of these then I’ll write in Ron Paul.  I’ve already written off this idiot McCain, who’s talked himself into believing that conservatives have no where else to go.

The Stupid Virus that infected the rest of the population has finally found its way into the ranks of the paleocons.  Obama to take on the establishment?  Like he isn’t an establishment puppet already?  He will be ok on immigration? Yeah, for the illegal immigrants.  He will take on the Israeli lobby?  You like the way he dresses?  Huh?  What alternate universe are you people living in?

And some of you had the nerve to blast the Cato Institute, the National Review and the deceased Bill Buckley for abandoning conservative or Libertarian poisitions. 

I already have a place in a foreign country--I planned well.  Thank God I did.  The last outpost has been overrun.  The American people are beyond redemption.  Seriously, I can now join the ranks of America haters around the world and feel good about it.

With the dems wining Hastert’s seat it is shaping us as a Republican massacre this year.

Yes, it very much has the feel of 1976 and Obama does remind me of carter.  And that is not all bad, actually.

Frankly, some of the ideas posted here amase me. I think Obama is as phony as a day lights savings day is long.

The man is clearly a radial leftist and his rhetoric is wildly different from his actual actions.

Hillary - who will be the nominee - would be much easier to oppose were she to win the Presidency. Already one-half of America hates her.

Obama is LEFT of NARAL when it comes to Right to Life issues. That fact alone, to me, means that pressing the touch screen for him is like punching your ticket to Hell.

And, as one of his campaign creeps has admitted, the “troops out of Iran in 16 months” is just an ideal, not an actual,part of Obama’s plan.

When I read that paleos are actually becoming a fan of this monster I am ever more convinced that our slide into totalitarianism can only be reversed by a miracle.

@Rollo:
“The Stupid Virus that infected the rest of the population has finally found its way into the ranks of the paleocons.  Obama to take on the establishment?  Like he isn’t an establishment puppet already?  He will be ok on immigration? Yeah, for the illegal immigrants.  He will take on the Israeli lobby?  You like the way he dresses?  Huh?  What alternate universe are you people living in?

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For a moment there I thought you were describing McCain… Seriously, what is the alternative and if you say McCain you are NOT serious…

Sasha,

I would NOT support McCain, though there is probably more upside overall to McCain than Obama.  I am praying for a Hillary nomination and then a Hillary win in the general election.  As horrible as the Clintons were, they weren’t nearly as bad as their critics portrayed them. 

The nightmare is McCain v Obama, and an asteroid might as well hit the earth at that point.

Rollo: Indeed, after seven years of Bush, with gas
at astronomic prices, heading into a recession,
caught in an expensive, endless war, and with our
prestige in the international community so bad that
Putin looks a safe harbor, the Clinton years beguin
to look like a lost Golden Age…

But as for bridgning the racial divide, we see signs
that it is happening, even before there was talk of
Obama. Thousands of women of all races read books
because a black woman - Oprah- told them two. Avon
sells toiletries to white men by offering Derek Jeter’s
endorsement. And thousands of Americans of all races seek
refuge for prescriptions costs into a program that has
Montel Williams as spokesman.

So, seeing Obama as Presidnet is not that much of a stretch.
And, given the dismal track record of “politics as usual” they
are ready to go after someone who looks differnt. Which is why
Huckabee’s supporters now like Obama

@Rollo
Hillary? Seriously?
Both Obama and Hillary agree that policy differences between two of them are minimal. Real difference is that one seem to be a nice person and the other two not. Both Hillary and McCain don’t shy from fratricide within their own parties, never mind bringing together opposition. With kind of times that are ahead of us do you really want that kind of person at the helm?

Rollo, Obama is not going to do anything radical whatsoever.  He is all bark and no bite.

He will be midly incompetent, that is about it. But he won’t be extremely imcompetent (a la Mr. Bush) and won’t be taking extremely bad advise from the likes of the neocons (again, a la George Bush).

And I hope Obama does raise taxes and slam the wall street crowd who all supported the war.  And I hope he does push gay marriage down the throats of all the theocons who all supported the war.  And if he forces companies to pay for health care all the better because, the truth is, that the public is already paying for health care.

And who knows, he might even slow down all these silly “free trade” agreements.

They current crop of “conservatives” deserve to be tossed out on their ass and see that their support for the war is costing them on their most cherished issues.

But the reality is that Obama will probably not accomplish any of this.  He top donors are all wall street firms.

Things are pretty dismal, except outside of politics, economics and war.

I’m glad I can play the guitar or I’d go insane.

I would vote for the democrats just so the crazies would be put back in their box.

Justin is right.  The only issue that really matters is war and peace and Obama is the only candidate who MIGHT challenge the status quo which has us locked into Iraq and doomed to attack Iran.

“When I read that paleos are actually becoming a fan of this monster I am ever more convinced that our slide into totalitarianism can only be reversed by a miracle.”

Amen. Reading this stuff is proof that the Stockholm Syndrome has kicked in.

Do not take part in this offer of mass suicide.  Obama will be as bad or worse than both Hillary or McCain.  I think he would be more likely to be led by the neo-cons because he has more ambition than either of them, and that makes him dangerous.